Deborah Secco – As a child, Deborah Secco was already passionate about Carnival. In childhood dances, she began to exercise the artist’s vein and incorporated the characters she dressed, even if the costume was “simple”. The love for revelry only grew and this year the 43-year-old actress will enter Marquês de Sapucaí as Queen of Camarote. “It’s a huge honor and it’s going to be a lot of fun. I want to watch all the parades, dance the samba, have fun, be happy. I want to be a queen who overflows with happiness. That’s my goal,” says Deborah Secco.
Preparation for the party begins in July of the previous year. A Salgueirense at heart, she, who came to the head of the school in 2022, is putting together the looks together with her team. “Now with social networks, we plan what content we are going to make to present each look. There is a calendar prepared for this time, a concept”, explains Deborah Secco, who works a lot during the carnival period.
Despite preparing so far in advance, she says that, in relation to the physical demands of the time, she doesn’t train and just tries to eat to have more energy. “I am already 43 years old, I am no longer a girl”, she points out. “I know I no longer have that body I had at 20, I’m soft, older. And that’s all right, just don’t get old who dies before. I am very well resolved with the woman that I am ”, guarantees Deborah Secco, who claims to deal with the visibility of her body in a very natural way.
“I’m not shy about exposing my body. It’s just another body,” he says. “I understood that I am a sensual woman. Maybe I’m a very free woman, very comfortable with being who I am and regardless of other people’s opinion”, ponders the actress, who believes she owes no one satisfaction. “The biggest evolution I had was when I understood that I couldn’t live for the approval of others, that I had to live for what makes me happy and be who I am”, she recalls. “I am a free woman, thank God. I do what makes me happy. I worry about not hurting anyone, but the teaching I had from my mother is that there is no right and wrong, there is happy and sad . If it doesn’t hurt anyone, always follow the path of what makes you happy, ”she teaches. Deborah Secco
“I understood that I am a sensual woman”
The parades at the Sambódromo are where she “finds herself”. The street blocks are Hugo Moura ‘s favorite , 32 years old, the actress’s husband, but a difficulty for Deborah, who cannot remain anonymous in the crowd. As for the children’s blocks, she goes to all of them with Maria Flor , 7, the couple’s daughter. Foliage like her parents, the girl dreams of going to Sapucaí. “Every year when I go, she asks, ‘How many years before I can go?’” she says.
Often, one of the two stays at home and skips Carnival at the daughter’s request. “When we can both go, we have a lot of fun together; when it doesn’t work, he stays and supports me”, explains Deborah Secco, who praises her partner. “Hugo is better than all my dreams. He is really the great success of my life (…). He is the guy who loves my strengths, but lives with my flaws ”, says the actress, who this year debuts the children’s Mundo Lupi , alongside her husband and daughter, on Giga Gloob, Globo’s children’s application. She will also be in the second season of Rensga Hits and in the Portuguese series Codex 632 , her first international work.
In her personal life, Deborah Secco thinks about having another child. “It’s a project that we have, postpone, feel like it again, postpone it again… In fact, I’m without contraceptives, but I’m not trying either. I’m leaving it up to God’s will; if it’s meant to happen, it will happen”, says the actress, who defines motherhood as essential. “ It was the best and most important decision and action of my life ,” she says.
What are your expectations for Camarote?
I’ve been to space in a few carnivals, but being queen of the box is a huge honor and it’s going to be a lot of fun. I want to watch all the parades, dance the samba, have fun, be happy. I want to be a queen who overflows with happiness. That’s my goal.
What is the importance of Carnival in your life?
Huge! I love the parades, that’s where I find myself most during Carnival, I think it’s beautiful. I’m Willow at heart. I love street blocks, but I went very few times, in disguise. It’s difficult [because it’s recognized], but it’s Hugo’s favorite Carnival, so we try hard.
How was the Carnival of your childhood?
Always enjoyed. My mother could never give me great costumes, and I went to a club once, and I was in a ‘simple’ Bahian costume. I went to participate in the Best Costume contest, and the girl next to me was wearing a cat outfit all embroidered, with pearls and sequins, that very expensive costume, you know? But I didn’t let myself down, I paraded, and I even won Miss Congeniality (laughs) . I lost [the award for Best] costume, but I took Sympathy.
It was already his artistic vein manifesting itself…
Absolutely. For as long as I can remember, there was this thing of saying I was an actress, even at the time of Miss Simpatia. It was where I was able to exercise this love that I had for acting and building characters because I still didn’t have many other opportunities [to express myself].
When do you start planning your revelry?
I start thinking about Carnival in July of the previous year (laughs) . What is the theme we are going to do, what clothes are we going to put together, design… Now with social networks, we plan what content we will make to present each look. It has a calendar prepared for that time, a defined concept. I believe that this year will be the official return of Carnival, the return of Carnival in Salvador. It’s Carnival really getting back on track. (Deborah Secco)
When you start thinking about Carnival looks, do you have any priorities? For example, comfort or brightness?
No, I think about doing something beautiful and different. At Carnival, the trend is clothes that are not very ‘dressed’, but I try to vary from swimsuit to bikini, to two pieces, overalls, dresses… I try to do very different things.
“I believe that this year will be the official return of Carnival. It’s Carnival really getting back on track
How do you prepare for this Carnival marathon? Do workouts increase?
I don’t train, I’m really bad (laughs) . I haven’t worked out for seven years now, sometimes I go back, I stay 15 days [at the gym] and stop. I survey Maria Flor and the rush of life. But I try to eat better and sleep better, because I know it’s going to be a lot of work and fun days too. Put those two things together and the night gets longer.
But aren’t exercises necessary to endure this hectic schedule of revelry days?
As I don’t officially parade anymore… Last year I came in front of Salgueiro, I think this year I’ll come again, but it’s not so physically demanding [as if I were parading]. I try to eat more healthy food, carbohydrates, something that sustains me until the end of the night. My concern is more with putting things in than taking them out. It’s a time when I really need calories, energy. (Deborah Secco)
Do you do any procedure for the skin to become more luminous at this time?
I’m doing these collagen treatments, using a collagen biostimulator all over my body: buttocks, abdomen, legs… I’ve been doing it for a few years now and I’ve seen great results. My goal is Carnival.
Carnival is also sensuality. How do you work yours this time of year?
I understood that I am a sensual woman. I never really saw myself that way, but I started to understand that people see me that way. Maybe I’m a very free woman, very comfortable with being who I am and regardless of other people’s opinions. I’ve been like this for many years, which maybe causes strangeness or a different look that puts me in that role of sexy women. But I am a woman very much in search of being a happy woman.
Do you handle exposure and collections well?
I’m 43 years old, I’m not a girl anymore, I don’t look for that girl aesthetic anymore. But I’m very happy with who I am, with the body I have, with the woman I’ve become and the woman I’ve learned to be over these 43 years. I deal with my exposure and with the exposure of my body in a very natural way, for many years now. Maybe that’s why I’m seen as a sexy woman or a sensual woman, because I’m not shy about exposing my body. It’s just another body and it’s mine and it’s the most beautiful in the world because it’s the only one I have.
“I’m very happy with who I am, with the body I have, with the woman I’ve learned to be over these 43 years”
Is it a sign of maturity not to be worried about what others will say?
I haven’t sought this response feedback for many years now. I know I don’t have the body I had when I was 20, I haven’t exercised in a few years; I’m soft, I’m older. And that’s all right, just don’t get old who dies before. I’m very well resolved with the woman I am, with the woman I’ve become and the woman I’ve been transforming into. (Deborah Secco)
Can you enjoy Carnival with Hugo?
Sometimes not, because Maria asks one of us to stay [at home]. Then he doesn’t accompany me because when it’s time to leave, she says ‘oh, daddy wanted you to stay’. We split. When we can both go, we have a lot of fun together; when it doesn’t work, he stays and gives me all the support. People are taking turns and supporting each other. We know the importance of being present in Maria’s life. The important thing is that we have a partnership and support each other.
Carnival today has campaigns against harassment and guidelines such as sustainability. What do you think about this conscious revelry?
It is a reflection of society. We evolved a lot and looked at places that needed to be seen. [This] is very welcome for me and I believe for all of us. We have to understand where, as human beings and society, we need to improve and improve ourselves, understand if at some point something we experience is bad for someone or some group and transform that. I do think that today women are much more empowered and that we really need to talk about harassment and aggression against women. We have been victims of this for many years and having a voice for issues that have not had a voice for many years is of great value and necessity. (Deborah Secco)
Have you ever experienced harassment in Carnaval?
I’ve been through several situations of harassment in my entire life, from people who go beyond their limits. But I learned very early on to fight for that voice of mine: ‘no, not here, what I wear doesn’t give you the right to touch me or harass me’. But I think this needs to be simplified more and more.
How is Deborah mother’s Carnival?
Maria Flor decides everything: she chooses where she wants to go, if she wants to go, if she doesn’t want to go, how long she wants to stay. I only fulfill wishes; wants, mom takes, wants, mom does. I’m one of those who try to move worlds to make her happy . Maria really wants to go to a fashion show on Sapucaí, she talks about it all the time. Every year when I go, she asks: ‘How many years before I can go?’ (laughs) .
People always say that the year only starts after Carnival. What are your plans for 2023?
Look, for me it’s just like that, because I take vacations in January and I usually come back with all the rope in this Carnival production. Then the year actually begins. This year I have Mundo Lup i, with Maria Flor and Hugo, which is a sensational project. There’s the second season of Rensga Hits , which should be recorded in the second half of the year and it was a very special job. And there’s also the launch of Codex 634 , which was my first international work, a series recorded in Portugal.
You recently said that you were trying to have another child. Is this the big project in your personal life for this year?
No, it’s not. In fact, it’s a project that we have, postpone, feel like it again, postpone it again… In fact, I’m without contraceptives, but I’m not trying either. I’m leaving it up to God’s will; if it’s meant to happen, it will happen.
Was motherhood an essential dream in your life?
Without a doubt I would be a mother, even if not biological. Motherhood was one of my great goals and the best and most important decision and action of my life. (Deborah Secco)
Did Maria Flor make you a better woman? Does it, for example, make you review concepts?
The woman I am today will be different from the woman I will be tomorrow because I learn a lot from my daughter every day. The woman I am today is completely different from the woman I was before her. A lot of my choices and the struggles I fight and a lot of the woman I’ve become is for Maria to experience a different world than the one I lived. So that she has different chances from the ones I had and so that she lives in a different reality than the one I lived. Deborah Secco
“Motherhood was one of my great goals and the best and most important decision and action of my life”
How is Maria Flor?
She is also a girl way ahead of her time, ours. Maria is already very empathetic, generous, loving. It’s amazing, she teaches me.
But that also comes from you and Hugo, doesn’t it? Parents also help their children to develop these qualities, sensitivity to the world in which they live.
We don’t help much, no. I say it already came to her. You see, Maria was 4 years old, I gave her a giant pencil case, took it to school and didn’t bring it back. I said ‘Hey Maria, where’s the case?’, ‘Ah, Mom, I gave it to my friend. And I was like, ‘hey, daughter, mom works to give you things, stay away from you [to work]’. She replied ‘Mom, let me explain, people are more important than things, for me my friend’s smile receiving the case is worth much more than keeping the case’. Then I said ‘ok, mom is wrong, capitalist mom, all wrong, daughter, you’re right’. Sometimes I say ‘you’re the most beautiful’, and Maria says ‘there’s no more beautiful; beautiful, each one is in its own way’. Impressive. They came to teach us.
Deborah Secco Queen
You and Hugo have been together since 2015. What is the balance of these eight years?
Hugo is better than all my dreams. Whenever I dreamed – and I dreamed a lot about having a family -, I imagined something that he manages to surprise me [the most]. Hugo is really the great success of my life. He’s the guy who teaches me to be a better person every day, he’s the one who’s with me in my good times, but especially in my bad times. He is the guy who loves my qualities, but lives with my flaws, understands that they exist, and loves me despite them. He’s the guy I raise a daughter with, the guy I debate life with, the guy I learn and choose from about the future, he’s the guy who makes me have faith in humanity. Hugo is one of the best human beings I’ve ever met. What a privilege of mine that he chooses to live his life with me; the guy I admire the most out of all the guys I’ve met in the world.
“Hugo really is the greatest hit of my life. It’s better than all my dreams”
Did you go through that crisis of seven years of marriage?
We’ve been together for eight years and I don’t feel any time crunch, quite the opposite. We live together a lot because we work together, almost the whole day, and with each passing day I admire and love Hugo more. I want to have him more as a companion, friend, partner, lover. It goes from the lust I feel, which is getting bigger every day, to admiration for the father he is, to the friend I really have, because Hugo is my best friend and he knows everything about me. I think this is a great privilege. I don’t even have words to say how grateful I am to God for this meeting, for this possibility of living with one of the people I most admire in the world. (Deborah Secco)
Do you feel like you still have something to prove to someone?
The biggest evolution I had was when I understood that I couldn’t live for the approval of others, that I had to live for what makes me happy and be who I am. I won’t please everyone. There will be a lot of people who will agree. There will be a lot that will disagree. There will be a lot of people who will think I’m great, a lot who will think I’m completely crazy. But we have to be what we are, we have to be better every day. I try to evolve as a human being, but my choices, my essence, the woman I am, this is not based on the opinion of others. It has to be real. I learned to be a real person even if I don’t like who I really am. Life for me is no longer about pleasing others, it’s about actually being happy: waking up and going to sleep every day thanking God for being happy, Deborah Secco
Are you a woman comfortable in her own skin?
I am a free woman, thank God. I am a woman free to be who I am, who shares life with a man who knows who I am, and who has a daughter who will also always know who I am. I am a truly free woman. I do what makes me happy. Of course I worry about not hurting anyone, but the teaching I got from my mother many years ago is that there is no right and wrong, there is happy and sad.
How does this work in practice?
Sometimes what makes me happy isn’t what makes you happy, so there’s no universal right and wrong, there’s what makes you happy and what makes you sad. If it doesn’t hurt anyone, always follow the path of what makes you happy and that’s all about it. Glória Maria [who died on Thursday] was a great friend and a woman who always said this to me: ‘nobody will ever pay your bills, nobody will ever lie in your coffin, so love, do what makes you happy’ . And my life has been about that for the last few years, being an example for my daughter by doing what makes me happy. Deborah Secco
Have you ever experienced the famous imposter syndrome?
Oh, a lot. It’s many years of public life, it’s 35 years of career, a lot of judgment. I am a woman who, in fact, am free. I am perhaps ahead of my time and have a more libertarian mindset than many other women. So I listened a lot, judged myself a lot, questioned myself a lot. But that’s me, I ‘m happy like this, and I don’t hurt anyone being like this. And it’s about that, about us being who we are, being happy being who we are, doing what we want and actually being happy, without being happy to show it, being happy just to be. Deborah Secco
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